Tell me something interesting about yourself.

Sure. So yeah, as I mentioned, I grew up in South Africa.

and although I would've loved to have stayed there, I did.

I love growing up there.

I think for me, and I'm not sure if maybe it was similar for you, I wanted to sort of, move abroad so I could, see new opportunities and experience new things.

And that's sort of why I'm here.

and something, trying to think of something unique by myself.

One thing that I really like to do is rock climbing, so.

Okay. I haven't really been able to do that a lot here, but back home there's a lot of different places where you can go rock climbing and so I really enjoy that.

Okay. Interesting.

And what do you enjoy about rock climbing? So I think it's quite obviously challenging on the body and you kind of, sort of see like a big rock climbing wall is like a, a challenge.

And to eventually get to the top is something that's really, fulfilling and you feel quite good about yourself and you can sort of try on a particular rock climbing wall and it might be quite difficult, but then you sort of go back to a smaller wall practice there. And then when you come back eventually to that big challenge and you're over to, and you're able to overcome and succeed, then that's something that's, um, really cool, and really fulfilling.